Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DxGf0-00010B-JE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:18 -0700 Received: from bay102-f34.bay102.hotmail.com ([64.4.61.44] helo=hotmail.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1DxGey-000103-N9 for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:18 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:16 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.204 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:03:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.204] X-Originating-Email: [mugglesnsquibs@msn.com] X-Sender: mugglesnsquibs@msn.com In-Reply-To: <12d58c1605072206457c6bd606@mail.gmail.com> From: "Robert Griffin" To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hello Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:03:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2005 04:03:16.0084 (UTC) FILETIME=[F32CAB40:01C59196] X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-archive-position: 1646 X-Approved-By: mugglesnsquibs@msn.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: mugglesnsquibs@msn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1046 >From: Adam COOPER >Reply-To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org >To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org >Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hello >Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:45:08 -0400 > >On 7/21/05, Kio M. Smallwood wrote: > > > > Is their a particular reason why lojban has no "th" sound? Are their > > sounds, > > which are common in other languages, that lojban has deliberately >avoided? > > >Thanks for all the Scotland stuff. I'd forgotten about "och aye". -- The >"th" sound IMHO is not all that common, I think. Even in English dialects >it >devolves to /f/ (London) & /t/ (USA) often enough. In Spanish it devolved >to >/s/ in the south & thence to all of Spanish-America. Arabic has it, but >otherwise does it show up in Asia at all? It occurs in Welsh, Icelandic and Greek, as well as Turoyo Syriac (spoken around Mardin in Turkey) and in Coptic. It also occurs in Burmese (for those old enough, remember U Thant, head of the UN in the 60s?) mu'o mi'e .bobgrif.