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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:29:07 -0500
From: Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Woe is me, for I am in dire need of some alternate way of learning Lojban
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On 8/21/05, Sigmund Kopperud <sigmundk@gmail.com> wrote:
> So... I've been looking at
> http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons <-- This
> test, but it doesn't seem to be sticking due to the structure of it...
> Are there any other guides out there to it?
> 
> .u'inai

Not sticking? Well, do you mean the vocabulary part, or the grammar
part? I've always had a lot of trouble learning vocabulary, but with
programs like Supermemo (www.supermemo.com and
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/) or Logflash
(www.lojban.org/resources/tools.html), there's good ways to get that
down. If LFB just doesn't have the detail for you, then you can check
out the reference grammar
(http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar.html),
especially the first, second, and fifth chapters.

And to help you practice, you might want to try your hand at reading
some of the longer lojban texts (a partial listing is at
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Texts+in+Lojban&bl)
with the help of the translator, wordlists, and online dictionary
(http://www.lojban.org/advanced.html).

Chris Capel
-- 
"What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it
like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?"
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