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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:16:06 +0200
From: HeliodoR <exitconsole@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Hungary??
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> {magjaro} (among other possibilities) is proposed here:
> <http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DNames%20of%20Languages>
>=20
> Personally, I don't mind using "unofficial gismu" for culture
> words for cultures that have at least one Lojbanist, so maybe
> {madjo}, or propose one you like better. I use {norgo} for
> Norwegian, {talno} for "Italian", {turko} for "Turkish",
> {xorvo} for "Croatian"... all unofficial.

 Well, if I really had a choice, I would immediately cross out any words=20
conataining {dj} as it is _NOT_ the sound we pronounce "gy". {dj} in fact i=
s=20
a distorted {dia} where the two vowels form a diphthong which definitely=20
isn't {ja}...
Maybe {madia} would do it - last consonant cut off from "magyar". The only=
=20
problem with this solution is that it isn't even nearly global: peoples hav=
e=20
{venger} or {ungerese}, or {vengerski}, anything but not the real name...=
=20
which might be a result of a misunderstanding in the Middle-Ages when the=
=20
king's "writer" or "noter" Anonymous (yes, that was his name because he was=
=20
too humble to write his exact name anywhere!) stated that Hungarians must b=
e=20
avians of the great Huns... but it most probably was only a tip from him.=
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Damned whoever...
 mi'e .xili,odor.

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<div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">{magjaro} (among other possibili=
ties) is proposed here:<br>&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-i=
ndex.php?page=3DNames%20of%20Languages">
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DNames%20of%20Languages</a>=
&gt;<br><br>Personally, I don't mind using &quot;unofficial gismu&quot; for=
 culture<br>words for cultures that have at least one Lojbanist, so maybe
<br>{madjo}, or propose one you like better. I use {norgo} for<br>Norwegian=
, {talno} for &quot;Italian&quot;, {turko} for &quot;Turkish&quot;,<br>{xor=
vo} for &quot;Croatian&quot;... all unofficial.</blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Well, if I really had a choice, I would immediately cross out&nbsp;any=
&nbsp;words conataining&nbsp;{dj} as it is _NOT_ the sound we pronounce &qu=
ot;gy&quot;. {dj} in fact is a distorted&nbsp;{dia} where the two vowels&nb=
sp;form a diphthong which definitely isn't {ja}...
</div>
<div>Maybe {madia} would do&nbsp;it - last consonant cut off from &quot;mag=
yar&quot;. The only problem with this solution is that it isn't even nearly=
 global: peoples have {venger} or {ungerese}, or {vengerski}, anything but =
not the real name... which might be a result of a misunderstanding in the M=
iddle-Ages when the king's &quot;writer&quot;&nbsp;or &quot;noter&quot; Ano=
nymous (yes, that was his name because he was too humble to write his exact=
 name anywhere!) stated that Hungarians must be avians of the great Huns...=
 but it most probably was only a tip from him. Damned whoever...
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>mi'e .xili,odor.</div></div>

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