Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EHkSo-0002u5-9f for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:55:22 -0700 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHkSd-0002ty-Gw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:55:22 -0700 Received: from mailgate.denbridgemarine.com ([83.104.25.50]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EHkMq-000I6e-3l; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:49:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BA01446E6A; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:55:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate.denbridgemarine.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (helium [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10253-10; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:55:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from rhodium.elements (rhodium.elements [192.168.2.45]) (using SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mailgate.denbridgemarine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DBB144AEDE; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:55:01 +0100 (BST) From: Colin Wright Organization: Denbridge Marine Ltd To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] PodCast comments ... Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:54:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: lojban@solipsys.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509201654.59524.colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at denbridgemarine.com X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2176 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: colin.wright@denbridgemarine.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1014 Hi, Briefly, I think the "podcast" (whatever that is) was brilliant. I downloaded the MP3 and transcript and am working through it, understanding the spoken lojban and repeating the words. I have a real problem with part of it, though. Throughout the letter "o" is being pronounced as the vowel sound(s) in these words: low though toe crow This includes, specifically, in the word "lojban". My understanding from the written material is that the "o" sound should be a pure vowel, pronounced as in "topic" or "hot". Can anyone enlighten me in this regard? I'll more on to other misunderstandings after we've got some feedback on this one. I have to repeat, though, that this is an awesome achievement. Kudos. .iosai kolin. -- Dr C.D.Wright, Director of Innovation and Engineering Denbridge Marine Limited, Cammell Lairds Waterfront Park, Campbeltown Road, Birkenhead, Wirral, Merseyside, CH41 9HP. Tel: +44 (0)151 649 4080 Fax: +44 (0)870 051 8953 Mob: +44 (0)7980 57 22 96