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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:27:20 -0400
From: Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: gendered and gender-neutral language
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On 9/24/05, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Sunnan wrote:
>
> > Just for curiosity, what word would you use for a female parent who
> didn't
> > give birth?
>
> mamta.
>
> mamta mam mother 'mom' x1 is a
> mother of x2; x1 bears/mothers/acts maternally toward x2; [not necessaril=
y
> biological]


What does it mean to act maternally? Unless we know this, we don't know wha=
t
behavior the word specifies.
Is it to mean "parent whose behavior is, according to the speaker's
opinions, stereotypical of women"?
Are the speaker and listener supposed to have an agreed-upon stereotype of
women to understand this word?
-epkat

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On 9/24/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Arnt Richard Johansen</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:arj@nvg.org">arj@nvg.org</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class=3D"g=
mail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: =
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;=
">
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Sunnan wrote:<br><br>&gt; Just for curiosity, what wor=
d would you use for a female parent who didn't<br>&gt; give birth?<br><br>m=
amta.<br><br>mamta
mam&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;mother&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
'mom'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;x1
is a<br>mother of x2; x1 bears/mothers/acts maternally toward x2; [not nece=
ssarily<br>biological]</blockquote><div><br>
&nbsp;</div>What does it mean to act maternally? Unless we know this, we do=
n't know what behavior the word specifies. <br>
Is it to mean &quot;parent whose behavior is, according to the speaker's op=
inions, stereotypical of women&quot;?<br>
Are the speaker and listener supposed to have an agreed-upon stereotype of =
women to understand this word?<br>
-epkat<br>
</div><br>

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