Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EMSWz-00021p-U0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:47:10 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EMSWt-00021Z-Md for lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:47:09 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so169857wra for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o/FSqZG/cXhsTnHhmw9zg2+zEE9ZHXTYVCdevZ+DcLNc5t60sK8RynfbM0zO1Nv0Nx7LE5hqAgpxyFbgCXqbghnNa528H0zvd6emOvYJIfshODk0PscSX6Msm8SUrMKV8HEdI7m3xYEix4fXhvke2+YMUHrxwXKepRts+Ycw7bI= Received: by 10.54.122.14 with SMTP id u14mr1555554wrc; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.3 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560510030847l869f57m26a3dbd4bbface12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:47:02 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Random questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2359 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1211 On 10/3/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 10/3/05, Naomi K wrote: > > > > How do you be sarcastic in lojban? Or is sarcasm too 'american', not > understood by some cultures, and thus was left out of the lojbo bangu > altogether? > > > The same way you'd do it in any language. Say something but mean its > opposite. As far as I know, sarcasm is not an feature provided-- or left > out-- by languages themselves. Lojban is unique in providing so many words > that indicate the speaker's relationship to the language, but if a word to > indicate sarcasm had been provided, I don't think it should ever be used. It > wouldn't turn a statement into sarcasm, it would just ruin the sarcasm. > That's probably why it wasn't provided. That's true. One can add a {zo'o} to soften the blow though, like you can wink an eye to indicate you're not serious, or add a smiley face in writing. > > > > How do you say 'this week', 'last week' and 'next week' in lojban? > this week: cabjef last week: purlamjef next week: bavlamjef Almost: {ca lo cabjeftu}, {ca lo purlamjeftu}, {ca lo bavlamjeftu}. Remember that words ending in a consonant are cmene. mu'o mi'e xorxes