Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EMlA1-0008CR-1E for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 04:40:41 -0700 Received: from sp0248.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.248] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EMl9y-0008CK-TF for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 04:40:40 -0700 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (82.13.25.247) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) (authenticated as josephine.shewellbrockway) id 432A19D20047EC16 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:40:32 +0000 Message-ID: <43426A2E.8010709@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:40:30 +0100 From: Jessica User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050912) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-archive-position: 2362 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: j.shewellbrockway@virgin.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 254 If I want to refer to 'the giver', I may say 'le dunda'. Similarly, 'the gift' would usually translate to 'le se dunda' and 'the recipient' to 'le te dunda'. My question is this: how do I refer to the act of giving itself? Jessica Shewell Brockway