Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EWyAc-0000Xn-SW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:35:30 -0800 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EWyAa-0000Xg-5E for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:35:30 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 34so894138nzf for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:35:27 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I9wesYdggQSa60y9BGvyGkSFxCS6fiDb9sDVoTlmNqDsKGb00OdhXTpfWd2AFlpcqKNKBSkGBw3eLlxzFU9k8cDkowVzKQzO9W3I7VlSGXE2j7JQgcHswPQ0bfjoAE1FUaTHsKbFgEls+YFfSIzMc4ADPoe+r+6t/QOKA07fGnw= Received: by 10.36.250.48 with SMTP id x48mr4227934nzh; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.222.49 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 07:35:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0511010735hf001466x@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:35:26 +0100 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Translation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14184_20559968.1130859326983" References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 2441 X-Approved-By: exitconsole@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2332 ------=_Part_14184_20559968.1130859326983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > > {loi ro prenu cu zukte ta .iki'abo mi djica lenu mi selju'i} Naomi: I have a suspicion that not only Your {loi} is - as xorxes stated - not what You want, but that isn't {lo}, either. Let's think it over (I'm not damn good in that, but let's make a try :)). I= f You say {lo prenu}, the statement Your bridi expresses is supposed to be true for all the people alive (or not, but that's not important for us). Saying {le prenu} You can pick some certain members of Humanity and announce something only applying to that circle of humans instead of You, Thomas, me... and everybody else. :) Oh, and (as xorxes noted) {ki'a} "I didn't understand this and this" is no= t the same as {ki'u} "...for which the reason is...". :) .a'o mi sidju .i mi'e xiLI,odor. ------=_Part_14184_20559968.1130859326983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
{loi ro prenu cu zukte ta .iki'a= bo mi djica lenu mi selju'i}
 
Naomi: I have a suspicion that not only Your {loi} is - as xorxes stat= ed - not what
You want, but that isn't {lo}, either.
Let's think it over (I'm not damn good in that, but let's make a = try :)). If You say
{lo prenu}, the statement Your bridi expresses is supposed t= o be true for all the
people alive (or not, but that's not important for us). Saying {le pre= nu} You can
pick some certain members of Humanity and announce = ;something only applying
to that circle of humans instead of You, Thomas, me... = and everybody else. :)
 
Oh, and (as xorxes noted) {ki'a} "I didn't understand this a= nd this" is not the same
as {ki'u} "...for which the reason is...". :)=
 
.a'o mi sidju
.i mi'e xiLI,odor.
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