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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:05:01 +1100
From: Naomi K <alien.juxtaposition@gmail.com>
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Ok, with your help, I have hopefully improved my statement:

{lenu ro do cu pu zukte ta se ki'ubo mi djica lenu mi jikselsi'a}
The-event all you acted like 'that' is the reason I want the-event I am
socially-esteemed.

Hmm...I'm thinking that {ro do} would be more appropriate {ro prenu}, since
he is only addressing the event that his friends did, and not what everyone
did.

I added {pu} to hopefully stress that this event has passed, and is not
going on right this minute.

{se ki'ubo}. Not the first time I've made a mistake between the 'because'
and 'therefore' versions -_-'

{jikselsi'a}. I agree that this is more appropriate of the concept of
'popular' than {selju'i}


ki'esai

mi'e nei,omis


On 11/2/05, HeliodoR <exitconsole@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> {loi ro prenu cu zukte ta .iki'abo mi djica lenu mi selju'i}
>
>  Naomi: I have a suspicion that not only Your {loi} is - as xorxes stated
> - not what
> You want, but that isn't {lo}, either.
> Let's think it over (I'm not damn good in that, but let's make a try :)).
> If You say
> {lo prenu}, the statement Your bridi expresses is supposed to be true for
> all the
> people alive (or not, but that's not important for us). Saying {le prenu}
> You can
> pick some certain members of Humanity and announce something only applyin=
g
> to that circle of humans instead of You, Thomas, me... and everybody else=
.
> :)
>  Oh, and (as xorxes noted) {ki'a} "I didn't understand this and this" is
> not the same
> as {ki'u} "...for which the reason is...". :)
>  .a'o mi sidju
> .i mi'e xiLI,odor.
>

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Ok, with your help, I have hopefully improved my statement:<br>
<br>
{lenu ro do cu pu zukte ta se ki'ubo mi djica lenu mi jikselsi'a}<br>
The-event all you acted like 'that' is the reason I want the-event I am soc=
ially-esteemed.<br>
<br>
Hmm...I'm thinking that {ro do} would be more appropriate {ro prenu},
since he is only addressing the event that his friends did, and not
what <span style=3D"font-style: italic;">everyone </span>did.<br>
<br>
I added {pu} to hopefully stress that this event has passed, and is not goi=
ng on right this minute.<br>
<br>
{se ki'ubo}. Not the first time I've made a mistake between the 'because' a=
nd 'therefore' versions -_-'<br>
<br>
{jikselsi'a}. I agree that this is more appropriate of the concept of 'popu=
lar' than {selju'i}<br>
<br>
<br>
ki'esai <br>
<br>
mi'e nei,omis<br>
<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11/2/05, <b class=3D"gmail_send=
ername">HeliodoR</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:exitconsole@gmail.com">exitconso=
le@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<div><span class=3D"q">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">{loi ro prenu cu =
zukte ta .iki'abo mi djica lenu mi selju'i}</blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div></span>
<div>Naomi: I have a suspicion that not only Your {loi} is - as xorxes stat=
ed&nbsp;-&nbsp;not what</div>
<div>You want, but that isn't {lo}, either.</div>
<div>Let's think it over (I'm not damn good in that, but let's make a&nbsp;=
try :)). If You say</div>
<div>{lo prenu},&nbsp;the statement&nbsp;Your bridi expresses is supposed t=
o be true for all the</div>
<div>people alive (or not, but that's not important for us). Saying {le pre=
nu} You can</div>
<div>pick&nbsp;some certain members&nbsp;of Humanity and&nbsp;announce&nbsp=
;something&nbsp;only applying</div>
<div>to that&nbsp;circle of humans&nbsp;instead of&nbsp;You, Thomas, me... =
and everybody else. :)</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Oh, and (as xorxes noted) {ki'a}&nbsp;&quot;I didn't understand this a=
nd this&quot;&nbsp;is not the same</div>
<div>as {ki'u} &quot;...for which&nbsp;the&nbsp;reason&nbsp;is...&quot;. :)=
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>.a'o mi sidju</div>
<div>.i&nbsp;mi'e xiLI,odor.</div></div>

</blockquote></div><br>

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