Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:48:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Ed8Te-0002yy-JV for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:48:38 -0800 Received: from dionysos.oderland.com ([213.115.211.26]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.54) id 1Ed8Tc-0002yq-Uw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:48:38 -0800 Received: from handgran by dionysos.oderland.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1Ed8T0-0001gN-Ak for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:47:58 +0100 Received: from 85.226.150.186 ([85.226.150.186]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user sunnan@handgranat.org) by handgranat.org with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:47:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <2570.85.226.150.186.1132328878.squirrel@handgranat.org> In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0511180433n7a024617s2d9f0022cf7acb8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2631.85.226.150.186.1132200308.squirrel@handgranat.org> <4539.85.226.150.186.1132245237.squirrel@handgranat.org> <1132254766.17075.12.camel@localhost> <2d3df92a0511180433n7a024617s2d9f0022cf7acb8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:47:58 +0100 (CET) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: All-Esperanto TV Channel From: sunnan@handgranat.org To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dionysos.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lojban.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32082 32082] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - handgranat.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 2602 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 896 > What does this mean: > *_Jen_nia_Mondo_* - Hungario, la lando madjara ? > Anyway, I do not know Esperanto. :-\ How many do? 2,000,000? > Still not much. > mi'e xiLI,odor. > I don't know how many understand Swedish, either -- maybe 20 000 000? Maybe half that? How many people understand gutamål/Gutnish? Maybe 5000 people, maybe 50000 people. 2 000 000 people is a LOT. I find Esperanto remarkably guessable -- from your example, I'd gather mondo is world and hungario is hungary and land is land and maybe madjara has a connection to magyar but probably not. I also think that Esperanto is the most sexist language I've ever encountered, even worse than the latin languages like french/italian. A language where patro means father and patrino means mother! I use and prefer rirni but at least mamta isn't "fetpatfu" in lojban, there are two different names with different etymologies.