Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Ed8ch-00036M-RW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:57:59 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Ed8cf-00036E-9P for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:57:59 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i30so1923760wra for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:57:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DZpwsF0OKSQzZETeljiRynTwAVvdqmItkoYA2ZVogPf3WPl+v3LsrL32xkrxFMZ76I/+1JnS7MsZ+j0cPF0U9gkw3KLmgGw1kELD/A96CpYwyoeXpY2gM0OrxoOjR+h+efarFlFyUGAtlLUcxY+iuQnfTOCXFVSnDERzn/um6aM= Received: by 10.54.114.20 with SMTP id m20mr4176957wrc; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:57:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560511180757j6a988294hd5612103e4586e3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:57:55 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I've written a wikipedia article In-Reply-To: <2144.85.226.150.186.1132328204.squirrel@handgranat.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2967.85.226.150.186.1132286067.squirrel@handgranat.org> <20051118041237.GH20158@miranda.org> <3926.85.226.150.186.1132297833.squirrel@handgranat.org> <2653.85.226.150.186.1132299499.squirrel@handgranat.org> <925d17560511180657i426bd84pd6728776ce428523@mail.gmail.com> <2144.85.226.150.186.1132328204.squirrel@handgranat.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2603 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1401 On 11/18/05, sunnan@handgranat.org wrote: > I didn't know that brivla could be names, I thought names had to end with > with a consonant. cmevla have to end with a consonant, but {la} can take a cmevla or a brivla. > jbofi'e parses that totally weirdly; it thinks I'm saying: > la / / pa /1/ cruxydinju /??-building(s)??/)] > > I do like the idea, but do I need to do something special for brivla to > work as names? Oops, that's right, because {pacruxydinju} is not a lujvo. It has to be {pacyruxydinju} or {pacyruxydi'u}. > That's ghastly, what ever happened to written/spoken isomorphy? It never really existed. > I've also seen digits [0-9] in some wikipedia articles. It should be no, > so and so on! This was one of the main lures of lojban for me. The advantage of a completely phonetic spelling is that you always know how to pronounce what you see, and you always know how to write what you hear. That's not broken by allowing {re} and {2} to stand for the same word, or {P} and {py} ro stand for the same word. In many contexts "2" and "P" are much easier to read. > > I prefer big-endian too. The grammar allows both (and many other) > > conventions. It is always possible to be unambiguous with either > > convention, so everyone can (will) use whatever they like most. > > How do I do it? For example {li pasobibi} can only be a year. mu'o mi'e xorxes