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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:19:19 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I've written a wikipedia article
From: sunnan@handgranat.org
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> On 11/18/05, sunnan@handgranat.org <sunnan@handgranat.org> wrote:
>> I didn't know that brivla could be names, I thought names had to end
>> with
>> with a consonant.
>
> cmevla have to end with a consonant, but {la} can take a cmevla
> or a brivla.
>
>> jbofi'e parses that totally weirdly; it thinks I'm saying:
>> la / / pa /1/ cruxydinju /??-building(s)??/)]
>>
>> I do like the idea, but do I need to do something special for brivla to
>> work as names?
>
> Oops, that's right, because {pacruxydinju} is not a lujvo.
> It has to be {pacyruxydinju} or {pacyruxydi'u}.

Right, thanks. Then again, that opens the door to gratuitus lujvo-making,
which I do so adore but that opinion is not shared by everyone.

>> That's ghastly, what ever happened to written/spoken isomorphy?
>
> It never really existed.
>
>> I've also seen digits [0-9] in some wikipedia articles. It should be no,
>> so and so on! This was one of the main lures of lojban for me.
>
> The advantage of a completely phonetic spelling is that you always
> know how to pronounce what you see, and you always know how
> to write what you hear. That's not broken by allowing {re} and {2} to
> stand for the same word, or {P} and {py} ro stand for the same word.
> In many contexts "2" and "P" are much easier to read.

That's a matter of both taste and habit. I prefer re and py. I want to
Sapir-Whorf my brain to pieces and eventually learn the mekso system. RPN
of course. I want to speak digits.

>> > I prefer big-endian too. The grammar allows both (and many other)
>> > conventions. It is always possible to be unambiguous with either
>> > convention, so everyone can (will) use whatever they like most.
>>
>> How do I do it?
>
> For example {li pasobibi} can only be a year.

It can also mean Thursday, January the first, thirty-three minutes and
eight seconds past midnight, 1970.

m'ie snan (or, I guess it can be mi'e snani now, but that doesn't sound so
similar to my Swedish name Sunnan as snan does.)