Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EdZne-0002UQ-VS for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:59:07 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EdZnd-0002UH-0g for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:59:06 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so243158wri for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:59:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MxeCP/ct3xMCFtNm7e1K45PW8lCJL0lBQrMyYkOhZa4SB0bdtySfEIAP+fuFRPZab10tegpopIqF1xr+rS6pHv6qjjdbT5Ri74TQVGy1BWHo4O5X32pMfQAkRiMeIFUx9P2FMURs3NpVMjqTCY9kf9PyCVy3j/j9mZ4wTA0HBDQ= Received: by 10.54.107.4 with SMTP id f4mr300886wrc; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:59:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560511191259k90d9ae1j873f05b2bb835284@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:59:03 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Up-to-date definition of Lojban In-Reply-To: <20051119203205.GS23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1003614874.20051119120342@mail.ru> <20051119060745.GK23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560511190633j100f3c6dhfa8f70c2a540924@mail.gmail.com> <20051119203205.GS23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2620 X-Approved-By: jjllambias@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 674 On 11/19/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:33:02AM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > I don't see why beginners should be treated as if they were > > incapable of using their brains. > > It has nothing to do with using their brains or not. It has to do > with not presenting *unfinished works* to people as though they were > canon. They're not. Period. I haven't seen anyone do that. I certainly have not. > If I had thought people were going to go around trumpeting the BPFK > stuff as gospel before we were done, I likely wouldn't have taken > the jatna job. Nobody is trumpeting it as gospel. mu'o mi'e xorxes