Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Eejf6-0004xu-23 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:43:04 -0800 Received: from dionysos.oderland.com ([213.115.211.26]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.54) id 1Eejf3-0004xk-6d for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:43:03 -0800 Received: from c-1695e255.1210-16-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([85.226.149.22]) by dionysos.oderland.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Eejde-0002QU-PR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:41:34 +0100 Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Parallell 2 From: Sunnan To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20051121181929.GP20158@miranda.org> References: <2d3df92a0511210955k5ec743aek7c006453069e02f6@mail.gmail.com> <43820DCA.5080906@virgin.net> <20051121181929.GP20158@miranda.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:42:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1132710158.24462.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dionysos.oderland.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lojban.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - handgranat.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 2653 X-Approved-By: sunnan@handgranat.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sunnan@handgranat.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 845 On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 11:19 -0700, jkominek@miranda.org wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 06:11:22PM +0000, Jessica wrote: > > >'Free' here means You don't > > >have to pay for it. > > >mi'e xiLI,odor. > > > > It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with liberty. > > And nothing to do with lojban-beginners. Relate it to Lojban, don't just > repeat louder and longer that the other fellow is wrong. > Relating it to lojban; what are the proper terms for free software and gratis software? Is nonjdima a good word for gratis? How is zifre to be used for free software? I used it earlier in this thread because the gismu list has "unfettered/unrestricted" as two of it's "adjective" forms. {lo samselpla cu zifre} is wrong but is {mi nelci lo zifre samselpla} also wrong? Is zifre perhaps the wrong word altogether? mi'e snan