Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1Eg4xY-0005Ux-Do for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:39:40 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Eg4xW-0005Uq-EH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:39:40 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so1513519wra for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:39:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=e536jzNacg8ihZKaNSeQz3dpuhnJ26gbRbvS2etpaP0Y6GyocsBCQQuxoKn2tkYssJ9dNobIUt5JEiwvjhe1vwQ47KIcx/Iah01bVlc+HPmRzOkEKop//NNAuerRcNAFPHMrCHJm0Qpu1DFVCzDfFads7a6K+83cVSp6IP1ywr4= Received: by 10.65.96.14 with SMTP id y14mr9787459qbl; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:39:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.110.8 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:39:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:39:35 -0500 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lujvo and place structure questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2694 X-Approved-By: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 965 On 11/26/05, omicron@softhome.net wrote: > Also, I found the entry sezga'o with gloss word autistic in the > jbovlaste, having the definition, "x1 is autistic/Aspergian, unable > to understand social behavior x2". I guess this would mean le sezga'o > means an autistic person, and le se sezga'o means a social behavior > that an autistic person might not understand. However, how does one > simply say the word "autism" in lojban? > > Also, the gismu crino means green with definition "x1 is green". > Since le crino means something that fits into the x1 of crino, it > seems like le crino should mean a green object, and not the color > green. How does one say the color green? > > You seem to be looking for the abstractor {ka}, the property abstractor. It carries a meaning similar to that of the "-ness" suffix in English. {ka crino] means the property of greenness, and the {ka sezga'o} would mean the property of autisticness. -epkat