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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:26:11 +0100
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On 29/11/05, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/28/05, HeliodoR <exitconsole@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > .i mi puzi tcidu le vomo'o .e le mumo'o pe la lyfybys.
> > >
> > > I have recently read the fourth-section and fifth-section  of the LFB
> >
> > Have You read the fourth section of something totally unknown
> > and the fifth section of LfB? If not, You will need
> > {.i mi puzi tcidu lo vomo'o jo'u lo mumo'o pe lyfyby.} instead.
> > > .ije mi terpreti di'e
>
> {vomoi} or {vomoi pagbu}. {vomo'o} is an indicator, not a selbri.

I don't know if I follow you here... vomo'o is meant to be a sumti,
that's why I said le vomo'o. I never meant it to be a selbri. vomoi is
'fourth' as an ordinal if I remember correctly. How can vomoi stand
alone? I would have to say lo vomoi pagbu, which is longer to say than
lo vomo'o which has the implicit meaning of a section or chapter.

> That still groups as (lo vomoi) jo'u (lo mumoi pe LFB). To get the
> other grouping you need {vu'o}: {(lo vomoi jo'u lo mumoi) vu'o pe LFB}.
>
> You could also join them at the brivla level:
> {lo (vomoi jo'u mumoi) pagbu be LFB}
>
> > > .i le tcika du li xo
> > >
> > > the time = ?
> >
> > Almost perfect, only it isn't {li xo} what You need,
> > but {xo}:
> > {.i le tcika du xo}
>
> Actually, {li xo} was correct, but you need {cu}:
> {le tcika cu du li xo} or {le tcika cu du ma}.

I'd kinda hoped {li xo} was correct because I took it directly from
the LFB... :) And thanks for the {cu}. It's not always easy as a
beginner to elect (er...'know') when to use the 'elidable
terminators.'

> {xo} is a digit, so you need {li} to make a sumti out of it.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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