Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EjfqC-0004aF-6N for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:38:56 -0800 Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1Ejfq7-0004a8-UA for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 08:38:55 -0800 Received: by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix, from userid 72) id 5E23C32558; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:38:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from [139.179.97.195] (unknown [139.179.97.195]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B59F26FAE for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:38:49 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4395CC1C.8030305@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:36:28 +0200 From: robin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-7.1.20060mdk (X11/20050322) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: questions about questions References: <26506d300511280238g762086b4o@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511280645i24310fd2ga93e5b9be94cc067@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560511281547y25fe8c93hcc71e1220ad4c82f@mail.gmail.com> <26506d300511290026x3e37568cm@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0511290946w6c3c4caaqfad9f1773be4b98b@mail.gmail.com> <20051129175651.GD2289@miranda.org> <2d3df92a0512010619p2ca628aepe86f3be1eaff71e5@mail.gmail.com> <20051201153308.GG2289@miranda.org> <2d3df92a0512060513w134f8767q5236625b9964869e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2d3df92a0512060513w134f8767q5236625b9964869e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 2728 X-Approved-By: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 949 HeliodoR wrote: >>The categories of words are rather clearly dividied. cmene end in consonants. >>brivla end in vowels. Letterals end in y (or 'bu'). ranjit ends in a >>consonant, thus ranjit is a cmene. cmene aren't selbri. > > > Then that statement of LfB is wrong. Which statement are you referring to? If you mean "cmene aren't selbri", then this is comparing apples and oranges, since cmene are types of words and a selbri is a syntactic place. It's like saying "Adjectives aren't subjects." >>I'm confused about darves position that sumti involve selbri >>(where did that come from?) > > > By that sentence I've quoted from LfB. > It talks about selbri only, so I figured... If I'm thinking of the right sentence, I can only say in our defence that it starts "Simply put ...". I don't think the intention was to imply that for every sumti there is a selbri, but you'd have to ask Nick for clarification on that point. robin.tr