Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EwBvI-0007Hx-0q for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:19:56 -0800 Received: from miranda.org ([216.93.242.2]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EwBvD-0007Ea-8l for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:19:55 -0800 Received: (qmail 26552 invoked by uid 534); 9 Jan 2006 22:19:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:19:49 -0700 From: Jay F Kominek To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: 7 Questions (could be used for exams) Message-ID: <20060110051949.GR12437@miranda.org> References: <1071293535.20060110110254@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1071293535.20060110110254@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 2931 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1986 On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 11:02:54AM +0600, Yanis Batura wrote: > 1) As we know, the letter "'" is capitalized in selma'o names as "h". > But this capitalization is not a part of the language itself. Suppose > we have a cmevla {balu'ar} for which we want to indicate stress on the > last syllable {'ar}. How "'" could be capitalized in this case? You don't. You only need to capitalize the vowel. > 2) What to do if the assignable {ko'a} ... {ko'u}, {fo'a} ... {fo'u} and > logical {da}, {de}, {di} are not enough? Subscripts. ko'a xi pa ko'a xi re ... ko'a xi ka'o If you're expecting your listener to remember 10 or more bindings, I hope you're speaking to a computer, and not a human being. > 3) What is the exact meaning of the bridi {ko prami ma}? Your best plan is to avoid saying weird things. After all, the point is to communicate, not come up with the weirdest utterance possible. Even if you know what it means, your listener might not. > 5) Woman's reason (Russian: "Female logics") > "I love you, because the Moon is made of cheese". > Lojban has 4 types of causation, but "female because" doesn't seem > either of them. What can be done here (zo'o)? Lojban doesn't prevent people from saying things which are wrong. The speaker of such a sentence can use whichever form of causation they believe to be correct. That doesn't make it so. Obviously such a speaker would not use a word which indicates they are being irrational, even if we were to add one to the language. > 6) {ko} is the analogue of {do} meaning "make this bridi true". Are > there ways to create such analogues for other personal pro-sumti? doi assigns the value of do. "doi mi'o ko klama lo zarci" > 7) {ko} means "you make this bridi true". What to do if the bridi > shouldn't involve {do} as any sumti, for example "Make the bridi "this > picture hangs on the wall" true"? Your listener should be inserted as an agent in the bridi. See 'gau'. -- Jay Kominek