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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:19:06 +0000
From: Evgeny Sklyanin <eks2005@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: pamoi le'i dotco prenu poi ...
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On 1/23/06, Opi Lauma <opi_lauma@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, I don't see other possible parsing of the
> > phrase. The structure of
> > the phrase is exactly the same as for, say,
> > do viska le xirma poi mi nelci =3D You see the horse
> > which I like.
>
> Right.
> {do viska le xirma poi mi nelci} =3D "You see the horse
> which I like."
> Or the same (by meaning):
> The horse which you see and the horse which I like is
> the same object


I disagree. To me, {le xirma poi mi nelci} is the single sumti , which is
the argument x2 of {viska} . It restricts the description to only those
horses which I like. And only those horses are  the argument x2 of {viska} =
,
that is the horses you see.

At least, this is my understanding of CLL, chapter 8. Let someone of gurus
pronounce a verdict on our dispute.

mi'e .evgenis.

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<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1/23/06, <b class=3D"gmail_send=
ername">Opi Lauma</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:opi_lauma@yahoo.com">opi_lauma@=
yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">
&gt; Actually, I don't see other possible parsing of the<br>&gt; phrase. Th=
e structure of<br>&gt; the phrase is exactly the same as for, say,<br>&gt; =
do viska le xirma poi mi nelci =3D You see the horse<br>&gt; which I like.
<br><br>Right.<br>{do viska le xirma poi mi nelci} =3D "You see the horse<b=
r>which I like."<br>Or the same (by meaning):<br>The horse which you see an=
d the horse which I like is<br>the same object</blockquote><div>&nbsp;<br>
I disagree. To me, {le xirma poi mi nelci} is the single sumti , which
is the argument x2 of {viska} . It restricts the description to only
those horses which I like. And only those horses are&nbsp; the argument
x2 of {viska} , that is the horses you see.<br>
<br>
At least, this is my understanding of CLL, chapter 8. Let someone of gurus =
pronounce a verdict on our dispute.<br>
<br>
mi'e .evgenis.<br>
<br>
</div></div><br>

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