Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F6Thc-0002x6-SH for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:20:21 -0800 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1F6Tha-0002ww-D1 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:20:20 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n1so1381600nzf for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:20:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fzzSG+7wKrk2DVY86Kk0a6H2/i6JI5iI6LQFoqgNxZswo3aZXZ4o+OlMDN5zY/6yE/cTKujmBGhcpnHIW2aM4gvktqKwyImFUFr5Hs/K2BhdSCvUlhyn3QN/wUaoxZakeuxYjFUZzrYWiMoO19aKeSGvs4ZE4VmkO7i1/T0Ys28= Received: by 10.65.192.11 with SMTP id u11mr840740qbp; Tue, 07 Feb 2006 06:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.21.10 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2006 06:20:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2d3df92a0602070620o562a2a63hc33d292e3c949184@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 15:20:16 +0100 From: HeliodoR To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban Reader In-Reply-To: <925d17560602061113r30badf0fj288331d0b5a0e00c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1079_21112451.1139322016248" References: <2d3df92a0602060817s25d1da84t96c51ccfd901073c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560602061113r30badf0fj288331d0b5a0e00c@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) X-archive-position: 3053 X-Approved-By: exitconsole@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: exitconsole@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3027 ------=_Part_1079_21112451.1139322016248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > > > > .i ti cukta fi la .alex lo jbobau cilre > > > > Pointing at non-phisical existences is illegal; at least xorxe taught m= e > > that... > > Hmm... If I did, I probably didn't put it that way. Pointing at something > non-physical would seem to be impossible rather than illegal. {ti} is > _supposed_ to refer to things you can point at, but sometimes > people don't use it that way. Alright. As a separate issue, {cukta} seems to be more often than not used > for book the physical object rather than book the literary work. But there he pointed to the reader itself which at most appears on Your screen and isn't a phisical object. > I always think of {lai loglandias. kontrapozitivos.} to clarify the > > situation for myself. > > (Notice there are no {la loglandias. kontrapozitivos.}.) > > What is that? It is the xanri ke jmaboi kelci'e bende of Loglandia. :) http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less13misc.html mi'e darves. ------=_Part_1079_21112451.1139322016248 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
> > .i ti cukta fi la .ale= x lo jbobau cilre
>
> Pointing at non-phisical existences is il= legal; at least xorxe taught me
> that...

Hmm... If I did, I probably didn't put it that way.= Pointing at something
non-physical would seem to be impossible rather t= han illegal. {ti} is
_supposed_ to refer to things you can point at, but= sometimes
people don't use it that way.
 
Alright.

As a separate issue, {cukta} see= ms to be more often than not used
for book the physical object rather th= an book the literary work.
 
But there he pointed to the reader itself which at most appears o= n Your
screen and isn't a phisical object.
 

> I always think of {lai logl= andias. kontrapozitivos.} to clarify the
> situation for myself.
> (Notice there are no {la loglandias. kontrapozitivos.}.)

What i= s that?
 
It is the xanri ke jmaboi kelci'e bende of Loglandia. :)
 
mi'e darves.
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