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Alex Joseph Martini wrote:
> Is the point here to decide how {pritu} aught to be defined, or how it
> currently is defined? This issue seems to be getting a little blurred.

Yes. I find the definitions, especially, but not only of the places, a 
little too abstract for learning. They should all have some notes on 
their purpose, a dictionary giving sentences with appropriate situations.

After all the reading along (and decidedly not from looking at the place 
structure) it seems to me that the third place would typically be filled 
with either the speaker or the listener, information that is likely to 
be supplied in any language.


la .iulias. pritu la mari,as.
	Speaker and listener probably face the same way.

la .iulias. pritu la mari,as. mi
	From the speaker's perspective, telling the (or each) listener to do 
the necessary rotations.

la .iulias. pritu la mari,as. do
	From the listener's perspective.


This is interpretation 3.

Lojban may not have been designed for pragmatism, but is this kind of 
thinking that far off?

klaus