Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLBUE-0002rL-29 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:55:18 -0800 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.93.160] helo=skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FLBUA-0002rB-Vy for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:55:17 -0800 Received: FROM gyruss.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (gyruss.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.213]) BY skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 441E27A0.68E03.15268 ; 19 Mar 2006 22:55:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:55:08 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Joseph Martini X-X-Sender: alexjm@gyruss.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: My first two sentences - are they correct so far? In-Reply-To: <200603192132.20880.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: References: <1225392006.20060314082022@stapelberg.de> <2d3df92a0603171020v583ea230m7ab9f5ebfdf38e40@mail.gmail.com> <1702776135.20060319112428@stapelberg.de> <200603192132.20880.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3123 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 688 On Sun, 19 Mar 2006, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 19 March 2006 05:24, Michael Stapelberg wrote: >> What means "loi"? Why not just "le"? And what "be"? And where do I >> find such words (I've looked into the Lojban for Beginners-lesson and >> the jbovlaste)? > > {be} is in jbovlaste: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/be . The gloss > isn't much help, as {be} has no equivalent in any other language that > I know of except Loglan, so here's an explanation: > [ li'o ] I think I have already said this, but Lesson 9 in Lojban for Beginners also covers {be} in the context of internal sumti. http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less9.html mu'omi'e .aleks.