Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYqZw-0006Fx-Vb for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:41 -0700 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FYqZu-0006Fp-9M for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:40 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n1so1752148nzf for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OH1H2W7tqolRsxJ+STenlSqaAnk1OBisot6LbFngqi7O8IJjzgUw1bROLE0/WdIkMPsLEchPc4SVr400DES2RBxoZ2nVbpgmOU7BCWEp3bURkLOPdVBxe5iDTA+3f37nARP6hT2ftWFnyJi7UpkXfGb+3r7yZPkc5ky8md+wBF4= Received: by 10.36.60.16 with SMTP id i16mr2866962nza; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.20.62 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:25:35 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Jbovlaste search In-Reply-To: <20060426201543.GE2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060426192953.GD2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20060426201543.GE2842@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 3165 X-Approved-By: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 3041 I'll bring it up on the main list. -Matt On 4/26/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > OK, in my universe (as a professional sysadmin) "broken" means > "completely fails to function". This is patently not the case. > > In fact, it functions exactly as designed. If you have a problem > with the design, this isn't the forum to address it. Perhaps the > main list, if you like. > > The *reason* it doesn't is to avoid John Q. Public seeing things > like: > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/selranxi > > The goal is for users to be motivated to fix words up so they might > actually be *worth* voting for. > > Thus far, no-one seems to be so motivated, but that's hardly a > problem unique to jbovlaste around here. > > In the case of the word in question, pelnimre, I am *quite* certain > that I don't want John Q. Public seeing *this* crap: > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/pelnimre > > This is a *feature*, not a bug. > > -Robin > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 04:06:05PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > > There needs to be a vote in both directions for the words to show up > > in the search. The search page doesn't say this; John Q. Public > > Searcher doesn't know this; so he tries a search and it doesn't return > > a result. > > > > Naturally he interprets this to mean that search is claiming it isn't > > in there. He hunts it up alphabetically in the listing, and says "hey, > > it was here all along, but search made the claim that it wasn't. > > Search must be broken." > > > > And it is broken, by a meaningful definition of broken. > > > > -epkat > > > > > > On 4/26/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > Erm. It works just fine. Can you be a bit more clear as to what > > > doesn't work? > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 03:28:00PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > > > > Are you talking about jbovlaste? That search engine doesn't work. > > > > -Matt > > > > > > > > On 4/26/06, Alex Joseph Martini wrote: > > > > > What is the most inclusive way to search for a lojban equivalent of an > > > > > English word? My test case has been {pelnimre}, which is glossed as > > > > > lemon. If I search for {pelnimre} in 'virtual combination of en->jbo and > > > > > jbo->en' I get a match for the entry with the gloss word 'lemon'. But I > > > > > can't find any category in which I can search for {lemon} and find > > > > > {pelnimre}. > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > mu'omi'e .aleks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > > > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > > > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ > Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" > Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ > > > >