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Alex Martini wrote:
> When streams of sylables are (formally) broken up into words, is  stress 
> accent involved? I'm looking at cases like {dabroda} where  both {dabro 
> da} and {da broda} form two words with allowed  structures. The only 
> thing is that in the first (incorrect) example,  the stress would be 
> off. Would this cause problems parsing Lojban as  spoken by speakers 
> from languages that don't use stress accent or use  only very weak 
> accents, such as Japanese?

Stress and juncture are both involved. According to the valfendi program 
and its predecessor, if there is no stress in a pause-terminated string 
of sounds that contains a brivla, the stress is taken to be on the 
penult, unless that syllable's vowel is 'y', in which case it's taken to 
be on the antepenult. But that's for lexing text, where a space is 
equivalent to a pause. I don't know how fluent Lojban speakers would 
interpret words spoken like that.

A better example would be {xebroda}, since {xe broda} and {xebro da} are 
both grammatical and, if {broda} is assigned to a five-place predicate, 
meaningful.

phma