Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FsN6d-0001N6-3R for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:00:07 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FsN6c-0001Mz-RB for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:00:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:00:06 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban-beginners] Message-ID: <20060619170006.GB4600@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <8C85ED6CC1A2900-ACC-364B@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com> <20060615214312.GS15955@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560606151616r3859d5d8lfbff6d06c3d372ea@mail.gmail.com> <20060615232353.GU15955@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560606151732k214a673es5be0063c2783bbdf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <925d17560606151732k214a673es5be0063c2783bbdf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 3278 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1123 On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 09:32:51PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > On 6/15/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > >All Americans I've heard pronounce it "rai,n", so it seems > >significant to me. > > We may be talking at cross purposes here. I'm not saying anything > about the pronunciation of the English name "Ryan", I'm sure you > know better than I how it is pronounced in English. > > I was talking about the Lojban word {rain}. {rai,n} is a perfectly > valid syllabification of that word, as is any other. > > Syllabification is never significant in Lojban cmevla. I'm not sure that that issue is as cut and dried as you're presenting, but even if it is, that's irrelevant to my point, which is that if he wants people to pronounce it the way he is, he should indicate appropriately. It's not about distinguishing two cmene, it's about pronouncing one cmene the way its owner wants. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/