Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtwW5-0007gn-Ha for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:00:53 -0700 Received: from mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FtwW2-0007gf-J0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:00:53 -0700 Received: from mxip32a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip32a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.247]) by mxsf01.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5O10mgR013117 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:00:48 -0400 Received: from 24-247-28-251.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com (HELO [192.168.123.137]) ([24.247.28.251]) by mxip32a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2006 21:00:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) In-Reply-To: <200606231146.18285.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> References: <449A98A7.9090609@perpetuum-immobile.de> <449B012C.3030500@perpetuum-immobile.de> <200606231146.18285.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6657F691-47BF-4D54-B7C8-C83A25BA410E@umich.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alex Martini Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: bridi training web application Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:00:46 -0400 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3299 X-Approved-By: alexjm@umich.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2051 On Jun 23, 2006, at 6:46 AM, djim.dyBEL. wrote: > On Thursday 22 June 2006 21:59, Matt Arnold wrote: >> Bruce Webber is creating the software, which is called Karda. >> Bookmark >> this page to track and participate in the project: >> http://www.karda.org/ >> >> Karda is in Python and will eventually be a web app. We would really >> like you to assist Bruce in programming it! > > I wrote a similar web application for my personal use that > generates simple > Lojban bridi and their English equivalents and asks you to > translate from > English to Lojban. I'm using the temporary name Jbocpes ({lojbo > cpedu} == > {jbocpe}, "Lojban-asker" + {s.} to make a name). Suggestions for a > better > name are welcome. > > It's not very smart (i.e. it doesn't parse what you type, it > generates the > most straightforward Lojban representation and expects you to type it > exactly), but it's helped me practise the simple stuff and I'm > gradually > improving it as my Lojban knowledge grows. The flashcard approach > of rote > memorisation doesn't really work for me, but interactive stuff > seems to help > me a lot more. YMMV. > > Anyway, Paul Vigo's email earlier in the week made me realise that > it might be > useful to other people as well, so I made it multi-user and added a > registration system. Feel free to sign up and use it as much as > you want. > The current vocabulary is limited, but I'm adding more as time goes > by and > contributions are welcome. Just don't expect too much, I'm a > beginner in > Lojban and I haven't spent much time on this :). > > http://www.jbocpes.zenodotus.net/ > > [ li'o ] > ki'esai doi .djim. This page is a very helpful tool for practising translation. I like how most of the words it uses are common beginner's words (words that I know) so I just end up looking up a few new words. The parsing isn't a big failing, since it gives me a correct answer at the end for each problem so I can compare the two to decide if mine was close enough. mu'omi'e .alex.