Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyR05-0004UD-FY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:22:27 -0700 Received: from mail.foraynewmedia.com ([69.55.237.146]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FyQzm-0004U0-Q8 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:22:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 54154 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2006 10:22:03 -0000 Received: from 82-36-198-31.cable.ubr01.sutt.blueyonder.co.uk (HELO ?10.0.1.99?) (jimdabell-jim@82.36.198.31) by mail.foraynewmedia.com with EXP1024-RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 6 Jul 2006 10:22:03 -0000 From: "djim.dyBEL." To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: explicit time and space Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:26:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <44ACD9E3.4000809@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <44ACD9E3.4000809@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200607061126.06220.jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 3343 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jim-digitalkingdom.org-lojban@jimdabell.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 602 On Thursday 06 July 2006 10:37, Dmitry wrote: > How to specify explicit time moment and location for some bridi? > > Something like "I read that book in Moscow on November 15, 1941" If I understand correctly, you can use sumti tcita for both cases. The original bridi: I read that book. {mi tcidu le ta cukta} You use ne'i as the location tense for "within": I read that book in Moscow. {mi tcidu le ta cukta ne'i la moskau.} You use de'i to attach a date: I read that book in Moscow on November 15, 1941. {mi tcidu le ta cukta ne'i la moskau. de'i li pamu pi'e fei pi'e pasovopa} -- djim.