Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G1TIo-0004Uj-Aj for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:18 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1G1TIl-0004Ua-2V for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:18 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id t32so796725pyc for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=tJWECoUP39pNAZlX8+2vObp/UEH7jIA/s/TwI4N2n+pToXfGQv/57RAlGeYKyKAl1ncmfU8wUXNLUY3yrErwe9fxDPMvy6vja5EVjvkuOUG8b0ROM8WN0aX0ufAgQdbXpUWa6Pi+B1g8d2S30TjgxSe5cWJ+7gltPYZs/VN9JJk= Received: by 10.35.38.17 with SMTP id q17mr2554792pyj; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TimothyPC ( [71.112.110.242]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id i64sm627957pye.2006.07.14.12.26.11; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48CECB4116354D96AE81845CCE5F09EC@TimothyPC> From: "Timothy Hobbs" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: FW: lojban talks! (fwd) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6A740.B06878A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.5384.4 X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3424 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: tim.thelion@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 18226 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6A740.B06878A0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit like this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Arnold" To: Cc: "Bruce Webber" ; ; "Neil Epstein" ; "Sean Klein" ; ; ; Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: FW: lojban talks! (fwd) > Jeff and Jackie, > > I already extracted the text from the PDF into a Word doc, and also > made a version in which I stripped out all text that was not spoken. > (I am attaching it here.) Since the Lojbanists are a tech-savvy group, > I'm hoping that somebody on the Lojban list will know of a piece of > software that will mulch it so each unique word is listed once. Then > we would have a very rough estimate of how many rare or difficult > concepts we will have to develop with the Lojban vocabulary-creation > system. > > -Matt > > On 7/14/06, Priskorn, Jeff wrote: >> Jacquie and I are excited to have our script be considered for this >> project. I'm not sure how to exactly go about creating a list of the >> individual words in the script; however, I would be happy to get you a >> version of the script in whatever format might make it easier for you to >> extract the necessary information (MS Word, text document, etc.). Let me >> know if we can help in any way. >> >> ki'e! :) >> >> Jeff & Jacquie >> www.JeffPriskorn.com >> www.JacquieFloyd.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Arnold [mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:23 PM >> To: Bruce Webber >> Cc: jleadbet@emich.edu; Neil Epstein; Sean Klein; Thomas Idzikowski; >> lojban-beginners@lojban.org; lojban-list@lojban.org; >> jjfloyd@rocketmail.com; jeff@smarmyland.com >> Subject: Re: FW: lojban talks! (fwd) >> >> For those just joining us, here's the website I am referring to: >> http://www.loveandplutonium.com/ >> >> Love & Plutonium contains 7,030 words of English dialogue, if you >> include Dr. Medlo's written To-Do list. That's only 500 more words than >> True Extremes. I was tickled by this story and would be willing to put >> my efforts toward the translation. What do the rest of you think? Our >> first task would be to figure out how to say plutonium! How about {lo >> sovomoi selratni}? >> >> I'd also like to somehow derive a list of all the individual words used >> in this text. I wish I knew how to do that. >> >> -epkat >> >> On 7/13/06, Bruce Webber wrote: >> > Here is the Love and Plutonium script. Enjoy! >> > >> > ------------ Forwarded Message ------------ >> > Date: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:11 PM -0400 >> > From: Jeff Priskorn >> > To: 'Bruce Webber' , jjfloyd@rocketmail.com >> > Cc: 'John Kerr' >> > Subject: RE: FW: lojban talks! >> > >> > Bruce, >> > >> > This sounds like a very interesting project. We'd be pleased to have >> > you take a look at the L&P script (attached). Let us know if you need >> > anything else! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Hank & Little Liberty :) >> > >> > ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- >> > >> > -- >> > Bruce Webber >> > brucewebber@fastmail.us >> > http://brucewebber.us >> > >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: "Jeff Priskorn" >> > To: "'Bruce Webber'" , >> > >> > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:11:43 -0400 >> > Subject: RE: FW: lojban talks! >> > Bruce, >> > >> > This sounds like a very interesting project. We'd be pleased to have >> > you take a look at the L&P script (attached). Let us know if you need >> > anything else! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Hank & Little Liberty :) >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Bruce Webber [mailto:brucewebber@fastmail.us] >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:38 PM >> > To: jjfloyd@rocketmail.com; jeff@smarmyland.com >> > Cc: John Kerr >> > Subject: Re: FW: lojban talks! >> > >> > >> > > Bruce, Jeff. Jeff, Bruce. Bruce, Jacquie, Jacquie, Bruce. Jeff, >> > > Jacquie, Jacquie Jeff. I'm Jebby, I'll be playing the role of "guy >> > > who shares email address for latest crazy idea." Keep me in the >> loop! >> > > >> > > -Jebs >> > >> > Hi Jacquie and Jeff, >> > >> > I'm learning a spoken language called lojban (pronounced "LOZHbahn") - >> >> > it's a constructed (invented) language. You can learn more about it at >> > >> > http://www.lojban.org >> > >> > Lojban means "logical language" - it tries to be regular, unambiguous >> > and culturally neutral. Lojban has been around in it's current form >> > since the 80's, and existed as Loglan since the 60's. There aren't too >> >> > many people that speak it, but books have been translated into it >> > (Alice in Wonderland) and written in it (le nicte cadzu - The Night >> Walkers). >> > >> > Lately there has been interest in translating a film into Lojban, and >> > dubbing the voice and doing subtitles. This would be helpful for >> > Lojban students, and would be - well, unique :) >> > >> > Jebby offered "True Extremes" and there is some interest in that, but >> > some people in the community think it's too dark. We looked at "Arbor >> > Daze", but there is too much technical jargon which would be hard to >> > translate. "Love and Plutonium" comes to mind as a fun movie. Would >> > you be willing to let us look at this? >> > >> > If so, we would first take a look at the script - people may not want >> > to tackle it if it's too long (the Lojban community is not that >> large). >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > -- >> > Bruce Webber >> > brucewebber@fastmail.us >> > http://brucewebber.us >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C6A740.B06878A0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; name="words1.txt"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="words1.txt" Milo Mother what did I tell you about coming into my room when I=92m working sorry dear it=92s just have a visitor Tell Hank to come down Since does he need announcing No It=92s not Who Umm Dr Medlo Do know We met this afternoon I=92ll leave two alone Can Am interrupting something Actually thought might Where get that You dropped it we found your address inside and decided bring back myself are Don=92t remember meeting me The only 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