Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GKE7M-0003WV-Uc for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:04:03 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.177]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GKE7A-0003W9-1l for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:03:51 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id i49so2048993pyi for ; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:03:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E0gs9uM4Tz54E8+zKV9loz9sTFCpyz/ItUOasghyhoArk/rZSt+etYMXgcIPmlCjhyZH7+ex16PiSoLv+bO06nLNnBNSADwi0SOzptCISiHfPRbquwpDH3WzYin4SbDVk/C4YLh6EVAGwzGmGUfbC0rMLK7hQk/XYcatDdLKgNQ= Received: by 10.35.129.1 with SMTP id g1mr7707178pyn; Mon, 04 Sep 2006 06:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.22.14 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560609040603nbf52a5eh5cc7da7732474136@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:03:47 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Stress. In-Reply-To: <20060903224233.GI29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060902164155.51784.qmail@web51509.mail.yahoo.com> <12d58c160609021223l58876451q672af9a04d359d6c@mail.gmail.com> <2d3df92a0609021314m5bd32555n389ea2afedf21959@mail.gmail.com> <737b61f30609031028u632750fnf464dfa780087211@mail.gmail.com> <20060903182706.GF29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <737b61f30609031500y5c4bb3f8qaff982bb6e1320fa@mail.gmail.com> <20060903224233.GI29824@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 3563 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 801 On 9/3/06, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 05:00:45PM -0500, Chris Capel wrote: > > > > Can you stress brivla on syllables before the penultimate? E.g. > > xumJIMcelXA'i > > I don't think so, but I can't think of a counter-example off the top > of my head. xorxes probably can. blablablAbla is not the same as blAbla blAbla. brivla (gismu, lujvo or fu'ivla) _must_ be stressed on the penultimate syllable and _only_ on the penultimate syllable. cmevla can be stressed anywhere or nowhere, it makes no difference. cmavo can also be stressed anywhere, but, if you stress a cmavo on the last syllable, you must make a pause, otherwise it might absorb part of a brivla to make a new brivla {MU.pliVALsi} is not the same as {MUpliVALsi}. mi'e xorxes