Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gbxxa-0004Yj-Sk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:27:17 -0700 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.14.81] helo=hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gbxx7-0004YR-20 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:27:09 -0700 Received: FROM [141.213.221.81] (bursley-221-81.reshall.umich.edu [141.213.221.81]) BY hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 453CA6B7.90315.12961 ; 23 Oct 2006 07:25:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <8764ebit2r.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8764ebit2r.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alex Martini Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: conversational words for 'concerning' and 'peace'(as referring to a silence in a conversation.) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:25:39 -0400 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3655 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2078 As for the first question, you want a topic-comment structure. (Like the preceding sentance) The word {zo'u} marks what comes before it as the topic and what follows as comment. It's also used for what's called a prenex, which is handy for saying things like {There are no people here} -> {da poi prenu zo'u noda zvati} The prenex is actually the more common use, but I expect that this is just because many Lojbanists don't think in topic-comment since it's a hard construction in English and the Romance languages I am familliar with. The second question zo'u try .oinai .oi nai (UI*1) Attitudinal. Used to express pleasure / comfort / contentment / delectation / delight / gratification / relish / enjoyment (cf. selpu'a, kufra) mu'omi'e .aleks. On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Timothy Hobbs wrote: > I know very little lojban. But I already think in it to some > degree. I find myself saying doi in conversation after having > failed to find an English word for well doi. I have found 2 other > concepts, to date. which I struggle to say in English, I was > wondering if lojban has the solution. Here is what I would like to > say. > > when I am in an IRC conversation involving multiple subjects and > even multiple people. I would like a doi, not only for the various > people but also for the various subjects. I want to say doi > djankac's question .i {the answer}. I do not think doi is > appropriate here. because others are following the discussion too. > many times. two people will be asking the same question. I don't > want to cull away the audience with doi! What word should I use? > > Another word I find myself wanting, especially in conversations > with a certainty female whom I hope to gain the favor of... is a > word to signify a peace and quite in a conversation. something > that I can say that means "I am at peace and have nothing more to > say" I do not want a long utterance like that though. I want a > once syllable word that can be said quietly so only one can hear... > > > > >