Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GUrc2-0003NG-24 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:15:38 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.224]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GUrby-0003N7-IO for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:15:36 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so2794275wxc for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=d4iisfk8j1BSZinhJAjB13AK7ZNIKJJNywDS/XYCANtGMvDRzRxrisFHvxwG+DsDbQFDwADReSfc1RmlJpl5pJbDP6LnEU1J+dL4JJQ5jKS1mXojqPSZuASbJjzeQpH5fjFhcWM0VQ7+BE2LlY0rFOAlYDEhzytwarjj41jc+1I= Received: by 10.70.11.5 with SMTP id 5mr11827863wxk; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.31.2 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <241e6b720610031415y33825031yd2ead1d89dc98c8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:15:33 -0400 From: "Daniel Adamec" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Lightbulb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_54344_2008485.1159910133072" X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 3604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dadamec123@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 2266 ------=_Part_54344_2008485.1159910133072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What {sumti tcita} would be used for 'because' in a response to the query "why is the light bulb bright?". (apologies for the simplicity of the sentence). I had thought {ri'a} because there are several physical causes (the switch being moved to the 'on' position, the electricity moving through the filament, etc.). Also, because it is (presumably) a working light bulb and has a sufficiency of electricity correctly applied, there could be a certain amount of logic involved (perhaps including {ni'i}) (improbable but...) While I doubt that this is a correct usage, there is also a human factor, because had one not moved the switch, the light would not have activated (barring a house fire of several thousand degrees!!). I am probably making the problem more complicated than it really is, so once again I apologize for the simple explanation I will no doubt receive from several (rightfully) exasperated {jboprenu} mu'omi'e daixel ------=_Part_54344_2008485.1159910133072 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What {sumti tcita} would be used for 'because' in a response to the query "why is the light bulb bright?". (apologies for the simplicity of the sentence).
I had thought {ri'a} because there are several physical causes (the switch being moved to the 'on' position, the electricity moving through the filament, etc.).
Also, because it is (presumably) a working light bulb and has a sufficiency of electricity correctly applied, there could be a certain amount of logic involved (perhaps including {ni'i}) (improbable but...)
 While I doubt that this is a correct usage, there is also a human factor, because had one not moved the switch, the light would not have activated (barring a house fire of several thousand degrees!!).
I am probably making the problem more complicated than it really is, so once again I apologize for the simple explanation I will no doubt receive from several (rightfully) exasperated {jboprenu}
mu'omi'e daixel
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