Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GY78q-0008Fw-33 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:26:56 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GY78p-0008Fp-Pv for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:26:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:26:55 -0700 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: quickest way to apologize in Lojban Message-ID: <20061012202655.GQ30164@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <925d17560610121300jdfec8b1g4c56234b3cfae2a4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 3624 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1252 On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 04:22:40PM -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 10/12/06, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > >On 10/12/06, Matt Arnold wrote: > >> Does {i'anaise'i} mean "sorry", "mea culpa", or "that's my bad" in > >Lojban? > >> {i'a} acceptance > >> {i'anai} blame > >> {se'i} self-oriented attitudinal modifier > > > >I would use {.u'u}, but yours would seeem to work too, with > >different nuances. > > > >It is a bit strange that there isn't an apology cmavo in COI. Yes, it is. > I don't want to tell someone who I've wronged that I pity them. That's {.uu}, not {.u'u}. {.u'u} == {xenru}, i.e. "my bad". .u'u UI1 repentance attitudinal: repentance - lack of regret - innocence (cf. xenru, zugycni) > I agree about COI by the way. (For those just joining us, that > family of cmavo includes "hello", "goodbye", "please" and "thank > you".) I expected a "sorry" cmavo to be in that group, and was > surprised when there wasn't. pe'u nai? :-) -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/