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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 08:43:01 +0200
From: Michael <space3000@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: baxso
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During the course of history contries appear and disappear, fuse
together and spread apart.
Federations, empires and unions arise. Shouldn't Lojban use cmene for
countries and their aspects? I mean human, air, earth, trees animals
and other things will exist (well, not forever, but at least as long
as lojban is useful to people;) ), but countries undergo changes.
Countries change their names, cultures etc. Ancient Egyption culture
and language has nothing to do with modern. Roman empire turned into
modern Italy. The gismo reflecting some specific ountry or a nation
may need modification, and the older version would be necessary to be
able to speak about the former country. Think of Yugoslavia and its
republics. Would you define something Yugoslavian as Macedonian and
vice versa? Or partialy. It's complicated.

On 11/10/06, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote:
> > Is "baxso" the union of "bindo" and "meljo", or their intersection?  Or
> > something else?
> >
> > baxso              Malay-Indonesian     'Bahasa'             x1 reflects
> > Malay-Indonesian common language/culture in aspect x2
> >                                ab   2    (cf. meljo, bindo)
> >
> > bindo bid          Indonesian                                x1 reflects
> > Indonesian culture/nationality/language in aspect x2
> >                                 ab   1    (cf. bindo, meljo, baxso)
> >
> > meljo mej          Malaysian                                 x1 reflects
> > Malaysian/Malay culture/nationality/language in aspect x2
> >                            ab   1    (cf. baxso, bindo)
>
> Something else.  Union would be jo'e, intersection ku'a.  Commonality is
>   jo'u and is more nebulously defined.
>
> baxso reflects the fact that the common language of the two countries is
> one language, and thus primarily pertains to that language, and in
> particular to those aspects of the language which are indeed common to
> speakers in both countries.
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> lojbab
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