Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnLqp-000821-UA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:11:20 -0800 Received: from web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.139]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GnLqk-00081r-0x for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:11:19 -0800 Received: (qmail 37344 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Nov 2006 21:11:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20061123211112.37342.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [71.141.128.118] by web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:11:12 PST X-RocketYMMF: g_e_n_e@pacbell.net Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:11:12 -0800 (PST) From: Gene Mosley Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: syntax questions To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <925d17560611231236s60ed4ad7wd60d9e9cce8f4b16@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3705 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojban@mosleyfamily.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1703 Let me make sure that I understand this. {do klama mi} merely states "you come to me" {ko klama mi} commands "you come to me" {ma klama mi} = "who comes to me"???? {ko klama ti} commands "you come here" By context - you mean that if I was pointing out an open door looking at you and said {ko klama} then it would mean "go!" and make sense - in that context. Would {ko klama ma} have any meaning? From my limited point of view it would seem to mean "you go where!?" - not really a command or a question. Is there a nice way to ask someone to "come to me" or "come over here"? I am in process of reading through LFB right now - and I found parallel2. Any other learning suggestions would be appreciated. --- Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 11/23/06, Gene Mosley > wrote: > > From some reading I did I gather that: > > > > mi klama do = I come to you > > > > do klama mi = you come to me > > > > ko klama mi = you come to me! > > > > Is there an easier way to say something like "come > > here"/"come over here"/"come to me"? > > Another way would be {ko klama ti}, "come to this > one (i.e. to this place)", > but that's not really any simpler. > > > Would "do klama" or "ko klama" be sufficient? > > {do klama} is a statement, "you come" or "you go". > {ko klama} is a command, "Come!" or "Go!". > > If context makes it clear which one you mean, it > will be sufficient. > Otherwise you need to specify: "Come here!" or "Go > there!" > > You could also make a lujvo meaning strictly "come", > for example > {tifkla}, then you could say {ko tifkla}. That would > be shorter, but > not really easier. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > >