Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Grvm4-0002ha-2h for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:21:22 -0800 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.236]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Grvii-0002fm-F7 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:20:11 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so280737wxd for ; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:17:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gSb8kD5himZbWbJzmCKbaIAeMG7C44qmEDnouZ7aXMe3Bp+5ErVutDZBukWAZPprrWEVT0lG1A5Iu2BYImxuNvwGJG4MXFQJdhyg29r7WcCOYpnprGdH1CaJ8iaN36ApQGahQJfw6SpNLlS6y1A1YLlToeMXuLbvaj6OyrRQJG4= Received: by 10.90.96.20 with SMTP id t20mr649990agb.1165407468477; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.104.9 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 04:17:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:17:48 -0400 From: Betsemes To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A learning idea..... and my own attempt to do it. In-Reply-To: <925d17560612051254j7bf0c417r9e41e3b42337de16@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <45705B15.4050808@phma.optus.nu> <925d17560612041453h66bb0fadgdcdcbf7aae961b04@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560612051254j7bf0c417r9e41e3b42337de16@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 3813 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: betsemes@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1251 On 12/5/06, Jorge Llambías wrote: > I think you want {mi pu noroi pidversra ...}. Without {ba'o}, because > you are talking about the sponsoring itself, not the time after the > sponsoring. {pu noroi} says that in the past there was no time such > that ... whereas {noroi pu} says that at no time it is/was/will be the > case that in the past ... Ahhh, right, thanks. > I prefer {se bangu} instead of {tavla fo}, because it is not the act of > saying something that's relevant here but the fact of being a user > of a certain language. bangu x1 is a/the language/dialect used by x2 to express/communicate x3 Thanks > > I didn't find anything close to "practically". At least I meant that > > previous sponsorships of children who don't speak Spanish have not > > meant any problem. By those times I never got involved with them in > > the form of exchanging letters. So this situation is new to me. Thus > > what I meant with "practically", and I didn't find something that > > conveyed that meaning. I'm also not sure about {sivni}. > > {sa'e nai}? sa'e discursive: precisely speaking - loosely speaking Hmmm, it works although I don't think it means exactly what I meant. What about {sivni}? Did I use it correctly?