Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMRzz-0005yV-Ev for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:51 -0800 Received: from bender-mail.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.30]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMRzn-0005xx-0T for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bender.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1167DBE for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Nietzsche.lumma.org (c-67-161-6-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.161.6.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bender.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF7A7DF4 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:49:26 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org From: Carl Lumma Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning lojban In-Reply-To: References: <20070228053052.DB4437DAE@bender.tigertech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20070228164932.1AF7A7DF4@bender.tigertech.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on bender.tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.5 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Score-Int: -18 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 4056 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: carl@lumma.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1120 >> Hi everybody, >> >> I'm wondering if there are any audio programs >> on CD for learning lojban. Or interactive software. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Carl > >Not quite a CD for learning lojban, but if you want to hear it being >spoken and learn a bit: >http://www.nemorathwald.com/jbocradi/jbocradi.html Aiyeyeye. >For interactive software, there's Parallel 2 >http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Parallel+2&bl This looks like a reasonable way to do things. I've downloaded the .exe version with the first four lojban packs. The audio quality is a bit harsh, but otherwise this seems sensible. >or any on the list here: >http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Software+assisted+learning&bl >or the games in the lojbanic software section of the lojban.org site. I ran across learnfast, which dropped the Pimsleur name, which is exactly what I was looking for. I can get it to do much with my version of Python. Then again the fundamental premise of Pimsleur's is the hearing-speaking association, and since this doesn't have any audio I'm not sure what the connection is supposed to be. -Carl