Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRpsH-0004kw-Mu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:20:10 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HRpsD-0004kj-2p for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:20:09 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so141773ana for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fh0Q6oS7IITv2BjpHCgJ272mddGrD5L10oXdQE8KKmJZisEItWUAy0+OfLcoG8QyBXnlHvCaGxVDll9owiTT+WfWL066jizLadsmScpAZDqOWyg/MfQ3FLXbEI4I5E+ppDxtZrqSKH5+037zkFY4CwSEVG5t9h+Cjrdwlb8xgSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EjlpONEQaQLlFYhRJ8xQ4W2bMRLzvIuSjMczaahCWvYIQxsyt85vL9iiwiyJbRhLqBOpbYhu8D+u3jUhfixEsqwcyMLndYzN9aZOS+y5cWkm7WM3K179dyG9FL9rhxmgVMCBe6zv7cOVAtiIDBw54oRxXgWMyZIrvDQgnF5RFoY= Received: by 10.100.94.3 with SMTP id r3mr401973anb.1173964801625; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.16 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560703150620x297841e3o4e0ce5e7651c72fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:20:01 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: spofu pemci In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770703150526w6ff4eb7fld8cecfd4aa965389@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <23dc8c770703150502i49f6b79fpcea80ee350928d8b@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C1C@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <23dc8c770703150526w6ff4eb7fld8cecfd4aa965389@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4133 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 781 Both {.i ki'u banzu fa le mi jdini} and {.i ki'u ku banzu fa le mi jdini} are _grammatically_ correct, but neither is what is wanted here. {ki'u} is a tag and, like all tags, it can be used as a selbri tcita, or as a sumti tcita, or as a separate term terminated with a ku. {ki'u banzu fa le mi jdini} and {ki'u ku banzu fa le mi jdini} both say that there is a reason for my money being enough. Probably there is a reason, but that's not what I take the intended meaning was. All tags can also be used to connect two bridi. What is wanted here is {.i ki'u bo banzu fa le mi jdini}. {.i ki'u bo} connects two bridi, and it says that the second bridi is the reason for the first one. My money being sufficient is thus the reason for my happy song and dance. mu'o mi'e xorxes