Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HSzQl-00054M-LF for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:44:32 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HSzQh-00054D-Uu for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:44:31 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so1429092nfb for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:44:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=h224xTIJOq//LJH6WglfRqwrQHptb9hJ26LKelTXg7qHkTTR0Nb7JrH2Uu0zG5/Ra0HjYiHWkiCwIlUipa/v7YJDE9SS1zrzZrQrxJjop1PqfGXK2MVchMibR5DaXjH7SvKYv3LBKY6DzPC/cCgDx+Sgrj+WMSGSOYpKjNXuSS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mnX2J+vPzdesfFAFL9CrAf6931bvXVTWMVhc2+6GWqkdfpPkcAEItOLR+2eXpPnGwZYREHB+oigzmKc9fFYc7CI46ToL7Lx9K2SID9TJEiYp8D14qWbAv12htxl8Dy7bOPyTzR7oM+zUVGIvWn5m6a+ENngBoExlpdHOxOQJj+o= Received: by 10.78.178.5 with SMTP id a5mr2011189huf.1174239864702; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.50.10 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23dc8c770703181044x6bfd7f92j47c328163974e17a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:44:24 +0000 From: "Karl Naylor" To: Lojban-beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] Debug my propaganda? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4161 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: karl.org@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1239 Hi, So I have a habit of bugging my friends about Lojban, and just now I posted the following message and (partially idiomatic) English translation on a web forum we all use. Mostly its purpose was for me to play around a little and attempt to nudge people into reading up on Lojban, but having written this, I thought I'd post it here for the experts to pick apart; maybe suggest more Lojbanic forms of expression, tell me whether {mu'i} would have been preferable to {ki'u} and so on. I was also quite pleased that the English translation came out slightly longer than the Lojban :) --- pavo jeftu cu temci lenu mi co'a tadni la lojban. .ije mi ca ka'e casnu so'o sampu bau ly. .i ki'u lenu mi na'e tcetoi tadni kei la'edi'u joi la'ede'u cu xamgu pe'i .i .au da'i su'o pendo be mi cu bazi co'a tadni .i seri'abo da'i mi'a ka'e tavla bau la lojban. vau .ui .i zo'o mi dapma le rodo ka tolcando ... It's 14 weeks since I started studying Lojban, and I can discuss some simple stuff in the language. Since I've not been trying very hard I think that's pretty good. It'd be cool if at least one friend of mine started learning soon, then we could speak Lojban together [happy sound]. Damn all of your busy-ness ;) mu'o mi'e .karl.