Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HhT7V-0004H8-2u for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:16:29 -0700 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HhT7R-0004Gv-2j for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:16:28 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-676079 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:16:09 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007042712160825664 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:16:08 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:16:08 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo'o Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:16:08 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7CD5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <702226df0704270850iba9601ctc17dfb341c068c@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo'o Thread-Index: AceI5Bv7fGl0UKXsQlOT8g7/wN0MlwAAOHqA From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2007 16:16:08.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D14DDE0:01C788E7] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4419 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1627 > > da'i go'i fe lo nu mi'a krixa lu ko klama le do ckana li'u > > > > .i ku'i la'ede'u srana le smuni be zo zifre > .i go'i ki'a .i pe'u ko fanva la'ede'u le glibau > (My Lojban isn't up to snuff for either, and jbofihe's parse doesn't > help at all.) (first off, you don't need the "go'i". The simple "ki'a" will do.) One problem is you cut off the important context. Let me bring it back: ---------------begin insert---------------- > > mi'a xabju fi'o se kansa mu verba .i paunai xu loi nejni a loi zifre > > mentu cu srana mi'a sezu'e lo pu'u simxu gletu > .i.ia do rirni du'e lo verba .i lonu lo gletu temci ku zasti da'i cu te rinka ma lonu lo verba ca klama ra > (I doubt my lojban is accurate: I think you have too many kids. Even if you had the time, what if one came in during?) (I would have used "dicra" rather than "klama", but I understood your question) da'i go'i fe lo nu mi'a krixa lu ko klama le do ckana li'u .i ku'i la'ede'u srana le smuni be zo zifre ---------------end insert---------------- Taking from the top, we have, "We live with 5 kids. Is there energy or free minutes for sex?" "I believe you have too many kids. Supposing you have time for sex, what would be the result of a kid/kids coming to that event?" "Suposing we did: the result would be us yelling 'Go to your bed!'" "However, what was recently said is pertinent to the meaning of the word 'free'" In other words, I used the phrase "zifre mentu" (free minutes) in my original rhetorical question. Minutes when kids could come in are by definition not "free". --gejyspa