Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 May 2007 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HpqCd-0004ro-UB for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:32:24 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HpqCb-0004rf-CZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:32:23 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c23so310860anc for ; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TkKGrQkYfAUGMpb0qaB41uv722bTfdDa+80cjtGHZZDBJJW4aKNyBpqtPUFGyRgkOcuo+Gy89m9aLkB7SAgyNT6X0G1YLHaMg+PRSCCBfftJhSB2SIi8ikzxEca2ejf3pIiWDelt+a04vQwRSoM6+JDX3UI2tI8UGxx974eLriM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aywtMNolTwMx+xa1ho+220afZdogoQJB+24Ha91B386U2rKAolhiD79/7dVCJzQH0hmmUuWwXNXf/M8UbMTL1wIo2DFgzL/iAFo5uVVGT3iZEuywFUUQv7hLY5ZFnWLjlfW0WhXO8CRqey709DnDx3D7Y4YHHr5OTS4TXcPi2Vw= Received: by 10.100.31.2 with SMTP id e2mr2458576ane.1179685939667; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.92.6 with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23dc8c770705201132s3002172awdee644deeec6343a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:32:19 +0000 From: "Karl Naylor" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: distinction between gismu & cmavo In-Reply-To: <1179685341.465091dda984a@webmail.mail.rice.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0705201027w32358e69v3e6093496d67cc5d@mail.gmail.com> <200705202035.30924.todurov@gmail.com> <2f91285f0705201055p656e17b8t9dbed4c1255eabdd@mail.gmail.com> <23dc8c770705201101s878b06did0bf0f672abc853e@mail.gmail.com> <1179685341.465091dda984a@webmail.mail.rice.edu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4543 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: karl.org@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 579 On 20/05/07, mls1@rice.edu wrote: > > In any case, as you probably know, you can recognise a gismu by its > > length and consonant/vowel composition: all gismu are of the form > > CVCCV or CCVCV, and no non-gismu words are. > So it is not possible for a fu'ivla to "accidentally" have CVCCV or CCVCV? Ooops, didn't consider that. I guess a Stage 4 fu'ivla may have that form, I never really bothered with them much because they're so fiddly and arcane. I wouldn't know to be honest. Certainly no cmavo, cmene, lujvo or Stage 3 fu'ivla can have that form.