Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 21 May 2007 05:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq6do-0003VS-1q for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 05:05:34 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq6dP-0003Up-4c for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 05:05:28 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E98CE889 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 08:05:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: distinction between gismu & cmav Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:05:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <2f91285f0705201557o75faa50avf0eaedd5f309881@mail.gmail.com> <419009.65918.qm@web56411.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <2f91285f0705210013j76627dc5k4939dd7e7e994d70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0705210013j76627dc5k4939dd7e7e994d70@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705210805.00950.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: 5 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4563 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 970 On Monday 21 May 2007 03:13, Vid Sintef wrote: > I've come to understand. Thank you. > > By the way, will there in the future be some addition or clearance of rafsi > on the list? I've heard that the listing is still tentative and (someday > when a proper Lojban dictionary is edited) may be changed in accordance > with speakers' actual usage. I wonder, for instance, what's a rafsi for > {damri}, which is currently non-existent? It's said that the number of > rafsi assigned to a gismu depends on the word's usefulness; but shouldn't > {damri} be quite productive and worthwhile, considering those numerous > types of drum instruments in the world? We already did a rafsi reassignment many years ago. Lojban as it was spoken before that is called {mijyjbo} and is now partly unintelligible. The rafsi in the gimste are now fixed and won't be changed (except {fi'u}, which the Book says belongs to {frinu}). At jbonunsla I called my banjo {damryjgita}. Pierre