Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 21 May 2007 09:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqB5n-0007vF-3k for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:50:49 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqB5Y-0007v3-Df for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:50:40 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c23so370750anc for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LTjVfBySJzzBpqlQHZD7FLn/AbB7qeNIM2YfpN2duTM5WSrRal240DoFBSyXAHqM6rdFyClEdnqRFAXG7FaPlbrwImFfOyXyIncXDq51pvtHRm/BgBUCzfB5l/tKyVYCr6r6e0l7ZwNAdsxMHx1Fuc/BjwIh+oXvMsXAs+PShyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aVQoKNrCQc1pN3ujzqyS3d0rblepzxxXaXyDW9kdlbNAlGlindqAAM3unpYcXwoh5SywCseyHi6ByKC291bXqaXMxdwHB6BvTi72D7OjRzD8dkX1u2btVxZ8yiIr6ZVz/Gp0XJp0HDfGjZLg6EQP9z7s7wVBibIvBsCEoGkYTrM= Received: by 10.100.92.17 with SMTP id p17mr3146921anb.1179766219615; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.92.6 with HTTP; Mon, 21 May 2007 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23dc8c770705210950m72482700md07a24585067ffd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 16:50:19 +0000 From: "Karl Naylor" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A0: the first words In-Reply-To: <1179757069.4651aa0de935c@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1179750886.465191e6b00bf@ssl0.ovh.net> <200705210936.57363.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1179757069.4651aa0de935c@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4581 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: karl.org@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 708 On 21/05/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > For "neighbor", how about "xabjbi"? > I find "xabju" in the word lists. It means > "lives/resides" and seems a reasonable root. > Why do you replace "u" by "bi"?? {xabjbi} is a lujvo (compound word) composed of two rafsi (combining forms of gismu). {xab} is from {xabju} as you guessed; {jbi} from {jibni} meaning "x1 is near to x2 ...", suggesting that the meaning of the whole lujvo is something like "x1 lives near x2 ..." or "x1 is a neighbour of x2 ..." In the above, I used "..." to indicate omission of some additional places. The three-letter rafsi forms of all gismu appear in the gismu list to the right of the gismu itself.