Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 22 May 2007 15:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqcdT-00060t-AN for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 15:15:19 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqcdR-00060J-4Z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 15:15:18 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A3FCE8FA for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 18:15:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A0: the first words Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 18:15:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D47@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <1179853118.4653213e8147f@ssl0.ovh.net> In-Reply-To: <1179853118.4653213e8147f@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705221815.06335.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: 5 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4602 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 507 On Tuesday 22 May 2007 12:58, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > Thank you all for struggling with the translation of > the word "neighbor"... > > Is it "xa'ujbi" or "jbixa'u"? > Which is better/more common? Different place structure. For "x1 is a neighbor of x2" I would use {xa'ujbi}, since that's more like the place structure of {jibni}. The place structure I would use for {jbixa'u} is "x1 lives at x2, which is near x3", which matches the noralujv definition but not the other one in jbovlaste. phma