Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrJkL-0002zn-FB for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:17 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrJkG-0002zg-2G for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:17 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 78so553435ugn for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=A5Gi3USZ0E8J/n+ZO+jRE+nMv38TBqVdUicDS8MI9tO74dwk+Q4FMsBOzUZ1gTeHNMh3y7fvFMwZVE4YYiAmePYIZKMhuTKTwxOJMTh5jWbB5RZURMkGNXOOMg85Mr/vI0QtpsQrbd56KleYsQflxsR+ksRXiHjtN5sM9eiXPNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=Ev+LSwkEzPZXUprbYw6KKKwRE8BlYu6wK8tlHmY6AUvticMn6nwt7kD56r+z6ctbQOHUG4L8fKAJUNTzhLgH6ZODAqdfN3AORDv1gJiCkpfb0Ttb6cJHAUTRCfZM/VCqF2AAKc8/mE6MO4Lw+Uqh7Vlmjwyq+y08qc8cPrHyZ4c= Received: by 10.67.93.7 with SMTP id v7mr2385134ugl.1180037830405; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hithaiglin.local ( [81.70.14.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y34sm3439813iky.2007.05.24.13.17.09; Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dominic van Berkel Organization: Nazgjunk.nl To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Dutch Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 22:17:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <1180036965.4655ef65c902a@ssl0.ovh.net> In-Reply-To: <1180036965.4655ef65c902a@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705242217.05847.nazgjunk@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4647 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nazgjunk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 994 On Thursday 24 May 2007 22:02:45 m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > Good evening Hans (and all the others)! > > 1/ What is "finger" (part of the hand) in Dutch? "vinger" > 2/ Is it "Nederlands" (capital first letter as > in "English") or "nederlands" (small letter as in > "francais")? Capitalised, so "Nederlands". > 3/ Are there any accents or special letters in Dutch, > i.e. letters other than the 26 letters of the English > alphabet? Yeah, but mostly in loanwords. A common one is any vowel with an umlaut, to point out that it should be pronounced separated from the preceding identical vowel. So, if I say "geëerd" (honoured), the first e is unvoiced (close to {y}), and the second and third e are pronounced together in a long sound, close to ay in "bay". What the exact sounds are depends on position in the word and other silly details. Dominic > > Cheers, Martin -- "Bi-la Kaifa" "Pure Vernunft darf niemals siegen" -- Tocotronic www.nazgjunk.nl - Poetry&Blog