Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 24 May 2007 20:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrQQM-00027s-HX for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 20:25:06 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrQQJ-00027j-FP for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 24 May 2007 20:25:05 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47763CE981 for ; Thu, 24 May 2007 23:25:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Dutch Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 23:24:59 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <1180036965.4655ef65c902a@ssl0.ovh.net> <200705242217.05847.nazgjunk@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200705242217.05847.nazgjunk@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705242324.59504.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: 5 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4656 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 767 On Thursday 24 May 2007 16:17, Dominic van Berkel wrote: > On Thursday 24 May 2007 22:02:45 m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > 3/ Are there any accents or special letters in Dutch, > > i.e. letters other than the 26 letters of the English > > alphabet? > > Yeah, but mostly in loanwords. A common one is any vowel with an umlaut, to > point out that it should be pronounced separated from the preceding > identical vowel. So, if I say "geëerd" (honoured), the first e is unvoiced > (close to {y}), and the second and third e are pronounced together in a > long sound, close to ay in "bay". What the exact sounds are depends on > position in the word and other silly details. There's also the acute accent, used to distinguish "één" (one) from "een" (an). phma