Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 26 May 2007 10:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hs084-0006t1-Vi for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 10:32:39 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hs06M-0006qf-He for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 10:32:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 12103 invoked by uid 503); 26 May 2007 17:28:33 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 26 May 2007 17:28:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail79.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 26 May 2007 17:28:33 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 26 May 2007 17:30:48 -0000 Received: from 83.40-225-89.dsl.completel.net (83.40-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.40.83]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 26 May 2007 19:30:48 +0200 Message-ID: <1180200648.46586ec843a8f@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 19:30:48 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: my first Lojban words 1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.40.83 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4707 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1545 Selon Alex Martini : > The shortage of beginner's documents and vocabulary is always a > complaint > around here, so thanks for pulling this together. Do you think it > would be appropriate > to put it on the wiki soon? That way we can all work on it. I'm not sure. I don't have much experience with wiki. I don't like the idea of too many people (possibly with different intentions and skills) working on it. And I certainly don't want the number of words in the list increase a lot. This is hard to avoid if you put it on wiki, isn't it? Once the problem with the encoding of non-Latin characters is solved (Vid and I are currently working on Japenese), I would be happy to add some other languages. Maybe Arabic, Russian or Chinese? And of course other European languages are welcome, too. What about Spanish, Italian, Portuguese or Polish? I think HTML could cope with tables featuring a dozen languages (and columns). But not many more... I've chosen HTML mainly for communication purposes in an initial phase of a bigger and more ambitious project, e.g. for discussing which words to include, discussing the meaning of Lojban words (and their translations), adding other languages, etc. The bigger project I have in mind is the creation of an online, multilingual e-learning tool for beginners. This would involve a database, a lot of pictures and possibly sound. Lojban is meant to be spoken after all, isn't it? The HTML document in the current form is not of great pedagogical value I think. Cheers, Martin