Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 29 May 2007 05:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht0RU-00041I-KA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 05:04:54 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX19zMzDJbF4LbFrnTpHw0VBCuNFhhSyK3VE=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht0R5-00040p-Ht for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 05:04:33 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-884303 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:04:17 -0400 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007052908041725614 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 08:04:17 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 29 May 2007 08:04:17 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojbanization Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:04:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D4F@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <200705271844.45053.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojbanization Thread-Index: AcegsOmfctJYAkeYR9ej6Slrk8O3OwBNtPXw From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2007 12:04:17.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BC023B0:01C7A1E9] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4768 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 1095 Pierre: > On Sunday 27 May 2007 13:05, komfo,amonan wrote: > > On 5/27/07, zimmah wrote: > > > can anyone tell me what would be the best lojbanisation for the names > > > 'evelyne' (pronounced a bit like e-veh-leen) and 'zimri' (pronounced like > > > zim-ree in english) > > > > I would say { .Evelin. } and { zimrit. }, assuming the latter is Semitic. > > (If I need a final consonant, I tend to use 't' for Semitic names and 's' > > for Indo-European names.) mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan > I use 't' for Semitic feminine names, since 't' is a feminine suffix in > Semitic and is also found in other Afro-Asiatic languages. For masculine > names, I use 's' or 'x'. All the Zimris I found in the Bible are men, > except > the one in Jeremiah, which is a place. I would think that 'n' would be a stronger masculine final consonant in Hebrew names -- Aaron (a'aron), Samson (cimcon), Machlon (maxlon), Chilyon (xilion), Reuben (ruvein), Simeon (cimon), Zebulun (zevulun), Dan (dan), Gideon (gidion), etc. --gejyspa (mordexais a'aron ben shimon ya'akov)