Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvJU7-0002Oh-2E for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:49:03 -0700 Received: from smtp1.isgenesis.com ([168.215.170.6] helo=isgenesis.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvJU2-0002Jl-H6 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:49:02 -0700 Received: from [168.215.170.1] (HELO [10.222.0.214]) by isgenesis.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.5) with ESMTPS id 2614756 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:48:51 -0500 Message-ID: <46647AB2.8040000@spamcop.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:48:50 -0500 From: Charles Duffy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: hearing lojban for the first time References: <1180908797.46633cfd69599@ssl0.ovh.net> <46645852.4010708@perpetuum-immobile.de> <1180982185.46645ba94984c@ssl0.ovh.net> <46645CA9.2030001@perpetuum-immobile.de> <1180983971.466462a35bf06@ssl0.ovh.net> <411a52d90706041255s11f65761lb42eb8a32087fc0a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <411a52d90706041255s11f65761lb42eb8a32087fc0a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 2.9 X-Spam-Score-Int: 29 X-Spam-Bar: ++ X-archive-position: 4873 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cduffy@spamcop.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 383 Hans Isbrücker wrote: > I use winamp and it usually hasn't any problems with ogg. These files > don't play though. ogg is just a container format, and can contain files packed with multiple codecs (so can wav, for that matter). While winamp probably comes with a Vorbis codec, I'm pretty sure it doesn't ship with speex out-of-the-box. Not that there isn't a plugin available.