Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hu6qY-0004go-1z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:07:20 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.247]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hu6qR-0004gf-SI for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:07:12 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so183134ana for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:07:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dra7+d9fvDpbd0BIMwoMPa/dWpSBfZx6+lYzz4ocXkj2ONu386QzC9fp2QshH59MFh/CecO1J6V+x8RRRizGnuD3E7Z9Dw8PCZ7fNqJ3Vd5bwrD2uo9+AsaDn6SCTh1WURyCDgFyGg4USqQFnF3ZjKa3fA2HZDEWGlVx+szLjQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CoySTPpITIpX+Zx0Twec8QzzhC17+9ov8cKhm3Q9SU5tjYQRw4/qVip266K+4/o7GI9vZr6JeTS7a63GeVk+SQwnqFoPpdyc/4G2FN8imEhabj+O2BioHxupbbulfybI4Y07vju7gYT3J3nJqlx7MEd+GltYebwntX8I9dZkIAo= Received: by 10.100.200.12 with SMTP id x12mr977653anf.1180703225447; Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.12 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2007 06:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706010607r7d756748he358f5a758b05f39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 10:07:05 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la melpelkre .e le ci cribe In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D68@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <23dc8c770706010301n673590e4pf3e2da4ddb620abf@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D68@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4800 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 674 On 6/1/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > > {pu ca'o citka} or {pu citka pi so'u ...} would make things clearer. > > Without {ca'o} or {pi su'o} I read them as completed events. > > Well, aren't they completed? She isn't eating the porridge any > longer... The eating was not completed in those cases, she stopped eating the porridge before the event of her eating the porridge was complete. {pu citka} could be {pu mo'u citka} or {pu ca'o citka}, but since in this case it is important and relevant that {mo'u} is not the actual aspect, I think making the {ca'o} explicit is useful to prevent the {mo'u} reading. mu'o mi'e xorxes