Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HzBMC-0008Oy-Ra for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:56:53 -0700 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HzBM6-0008Ob-Dy for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:56:50 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.19] [149.8.64.19]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-157687 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:56:05 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007061508560514168 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:56:05 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:55:48 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the hills of Andilly which are delightful - abstractors, be Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:55:48 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DBA@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <4672826D.7010704@perpetuum-immobile.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: the hills of Andilly which are delightful - abstractors, be Thread-Index: AcevS0ljCRht8XxrSeeE9LgWg7fNOwAAP3HQ From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2007 12:55:48.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EDA9CE0:01C7AF4C] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4960 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Content-Length: 619 Timo: > David Cortesi wrote: > > It was {sedu'u}, the-fact-of, I didn't know. This is a useful template: > > "I said that x-is-y" ==> {mi pu cusku sedu'u } > you lack a gadri before sedu'u in that template. abstractors like nu, > du'u, zu'o (see below) and so on always turn something into a brivla, > which you need to turn into a sumti first, or else you'll mash them > together (with cusku in this case) to a tanru! That was my fault, not David's. Thanks for catching it. (I scan stuff into jbofi'e before sending it out, in order to double-check, but I missed that one). --gejyspa